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Hi peeps been a long time facebook user and now signed up here aswell.
Now i just want to see if anyone else has trouble with the area’s you work in and the police.
Im a ds and work in towns and norich city in norfolk. i work from small pubs in towns where all the trouble is to one of many nightclubs in the main strip of the city. Now the police is it annoying when you dont know where you stand.
I got into a scrap in a medium sized towns venue and put the guy out hard ( for my own safety) he hit is head ona wall on the way out. police came and took details checked cctv and were like thats fine you were doing your job. so then i work a 50 mile stint from my job and was speaking to a police officer in another town and told him about it (just general chit chat) and he said i would have arrested you for that with out doubt.
now i know there are different thresh holds with officers and people alike but since speaking to a few other ds staff in that town they have said how bad the police are towards sia staff.
I just think its strange that if some guy is starting to get violent in one town i can put him out but in another town i might get arrested.
any one else getting this??
Mate all the time. I worked in an indoor entertainment centre. Within our centre we had 7 bars and clubs with their own door staff but I worked for the premises.
We had police in all the time. The police response was that great that police stations took it on Rita basis whose turn it was to respond to the incident.
Dependant on what week it was you could tell if your violent male that we woul be restraining because of a serious assault on patrons or staff was going to be arrested or not. Or as the case sometimes was if you would end up in cuffs for doing a job.
Many times our staff were arrested for defending themselves.
There was no set level of response or action by police. Each week was different. Tbh as we used to say some weeks we had good cops on and other weeks we had not so good cops on lol
The company i do door work for does most of the pubs and clubs in my town.
We have a good relationship with the police and been called upon to assist them with a situation when a local club ( which went bust) had a promotion of any drink for 80p all night brought in people from outside the area resulting in the Police shutting it down for the night after a stabbing there and the subsequent brawls afterwards.
(09-10-2012 10:39)Paul Newman Wrote: -> 1The company i do door work for does most of the pubs and clubs in my town. We have a good relationship with the police and been called upon to assist them with a situation when a local club ( which went bust) had a promotion of any drink for 80p all night brought in people from outside the area resulting in the Police shutting it down for the night after a stabbing there and the subsequent brawls afterwards.
I think that showed a great working relationship where the police were able to call upon yourselves to give them a hand.
Reminds me of a situation where we had called police in to a situation of a massive fight. I seen 2 cops struggling with a fella trying to get cuffs on to a male.
I started to give assistance and the ‘older’ police officer told me to back off as they were dealing with it.
Which i did as instructed and stood back. At that moment the police officer got punched round the head by the free hand of the male and he broke free with cuffs locked in place in one hand and a free hand.
At that point i decided to step in again and a good technical move of a well placed ‘Clothes Line’ was given and the male was brought to the floor and finally cuffs were secured. After this the police officer approached me and said he didnt want me getting involved as ‘their training is so intense on what they are allowed to do and what they are not allowed to do’ that he didnt want me going over board.
I replied to the police officer that if he had of let me assist in getting the male to the floor and secured with cuffs then he wouldnt be the one with a broked nose.
He had to admit that as much as myself as a security officer need the police’s help in situations, sometimes the police do need our help.
hi just reading through your thread it is one of those funny ones that some do some dont our problem is is that we have had several bent coppers our way lately and now most if not all of them have been descovered and sorted out however they deal with it they like to actually stand back and do what our training allows becuase there has been a big push on understanding each others roles and limitations there is nothing that says we cant assist but you get some stuck up officers that think they are better than you and dont want you to
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